There’s been some confusion about how Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker movie actually fits in the Worlds of DC.

All throughout the production and early promotion of the film, director Todd Phillips spoke a lot about how it would not “follow anything” from DC Comics mythology – to the point where Phoenix objected to the movie even including young Bruce Wayne and his father.

Yet, there have been rumblings of Easter eggs to other Batman movies more recently, and theories about how Joker might even connect to filmmaker Matt Reeves’s solo Dark Knight movie.

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Joker‘s Todd Phillips recently shot down any link between his film and The Batman during a Q&A at the Toronto International Film Festival, while confirming his movie belongs to Warner Bros’ new label for standalone DC projects.

“It’s not really connected to that [Worlds of DC] Universe,” the director said (via ComicBook). “And it was really intentionally not.

“I mean the original idea when I went to [Warner Bros] with the idea was not just about one movie, but about a label – sort of a side label to DC, where you can do these kind of character study, low-rent, low-budget movies, where you get a filmmaker to come in and do some deep dive into a character.

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“So it was never meant to connect, so I don’t see it connecting to anything in the future. I think this is just this movie, you know?”

Joker has a release date of October 4 in the US and UK.

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